Oh definitely, the pilot union sent out a pretty depressing email this morning about trying to get the 2k pilots who just got fired home from work. They're still allowed to fly on other airlines for now and we gotta take care of em as best we can.

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Currently on a RC cruise right now and was supposed to fly Spirit back home and now stranded. I normally only fly Delta but booked spirit for this trip to save ~$1500. Now I have to fly back on a different airline to a different city and drive the rest of the way. I’m really dreading that travel day.

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Spirit really said if we cant fly well sink

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I'm ok with paying money to ensure I fly in a safe airplane with competent pilots and crew. I don't think aviation is a good industry to apply race to the bottom in.

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Spirit Air was doing the lord’s work of keeping the sort of people I don’t want to hear or deal with off the other planes. Not looking forward to having angry retellings of domestic violence drown out my movie next time I fly Delta.

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> r. In europe normal folk fly ryanair coz it is the only one that flies many destinations. No not really. People simply flight it because it's cheap. That's all there is to it. A lot of flights are inconvenient because you can land quite far. Paris flights are far away. Milan flights are far away. It offers flights to small destinations but usually because people want to go to the bigger one. It has no flights to Toulouse but it has to Carcassonne which is a puny little town. Simply because it's close to Toulouse.

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It's a success of capitalism that something as outrageously complicated and expensive as aerospace has been made so cheap people expect to fly hundreds of miles of $100.

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How is it a failure of capitalism. Business doesn’t make money goes out of business. That is actually how it should work lol. If more people wanted to fly spirit, they would not be going out of business.

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I'm not saying prices aren't going to increase. I am saying that it won't increase enough for stocks to increase. My argument is: 1. There will be limited increased demand from Spirit customers. With oil prices causing increases everywhere, the majority just won't fly. 2. I bet that prices on routes for airlines whose sole competition isnt spirit, then they weight the price difference of spirit less. So, for the most common routes where airlines make most of their revenue, costs related to spirit not being there will be lower. On the margin? Sure, flights like MSP to DTW where delta really only competed with Spirit and sun country, then prices might go up, but again I think that those routes are small and infrequent enough that they don't meaningfully impact bottom line on major airlines. My bet aggregate airline prices do not increase meaningfully from Spirit and are almost entirely correlated with oil.

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Pricing significantly lower. Quality about the same. Pay to play model of every conceivable "perk" being an add on. Bags seats carryons etc etc all chargeable. Flew a lot in Europe and would never pay more than £100 return to the big destinations and often much cheaper if flexible on timings. Great record on safety and on time arrivals. That said I fly mostly AA now and it doesn't feel far off Ryanair with the additional fees and rude staff.

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