They can make quick money by adding an ads system in the same way YouTube or Facebook do, but for them is enough selling API subscriptions rather than user subscriptions.

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The bot stores the value then pings a market price api. Itll think netflix went down 90% 😭✌️

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With AWS, one misconfigured API request and they can use up all $38B in a week.

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They're losing 12 billion dollars a quarter. You are only counting the compute not the the several thousand employees it takes to run it, rent, office space. 5 was estimated to be around $1.5-2.7 b. You're falling into an accounting trap, how are they losing 12 billion dollars if it only takes 500 million and their API is profitable given it's the biggest revenue stream. Yes they lose money off the pro version but where is this other money going?

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> The api is only profitable if you count it as its own separate thing using power generation from the already trained model, on already purchased chips No, that's not true. They're spending a lot on training but I don't think they've spent more than $1B on compute for any version of ChatGPT. In fact I suspect their compute budget for training GPT5 models was closer to $100M or even lower. Just based on what we know it costs to train models it would be very hard to spend more than $400M on training a model, and they can earn that back fairly easily on the APIs. Anthropic has directly said that they are currently profitable when accounting for amortizing cost of training over the inference API's lifetime, I see no reason to believe ChatGPT is any different.

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The api is only profitable if you count it as its own separate thing using power generation from the already trained model, on already purchased chips. If you separate the accounting you can make anything seem profitable. However the business itself as it currently stands according to Microsoft documents loses 12 billion dollars a quarter total. The play here is not to be profitable it's about stock price, the product of the company will be and for Microsoft it is stock price, not revenue or profitability.

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> chatgpt loses money on every generation they literally have said it at API prices for GPT5, GPT4o? you're making shit up. The free ChatGPT does not make money, it's a loss leader. Same with free tier Gemini. The APIs are profitable. They are refining their pricing and I'm sure there are certain usage patterns they might be losing money on month-to-month like the $20/month plan they might need to refine things, but the $20/month plan is in principle profitable.

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Yeah for mobile I use an app called 'relay'. When all the pay for API calls stuff was going on and they killed old apps like RIF, Relay got popular. I think Relay existed before API calls but it wasn't very popular.. Anyway they decided to keep developing with a subscription model. You can pay $1/2/3 per month for API calls and keep using their app. But to me it's totally worth it. The app is very good and there are zero ads. If you make yourself a subreddit and become the mod of it, you can access NSFW subs. It used to be you couldn't access NSFW subs unless you were the mod of any subreddit.. dunno if that's still the case. But ya.. I pay the $2/mo level which is plenty of API calls for the month. Even if you run over you can upgrade and just pay the prorated difference for the remainder of the month. Just remember to downgrade before the next bill cycle. I just fucking *hated* the official reddit app. It's so dogshit. Paying allows me to have an enjoyable reddit experience on my phone, support this dude making the app, and support reddit. Very worth IMO.

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Goog is the only big company that's spending on ai with any level of foresight They literally are building capacity to sell it in various forms Gemini API To Meta and anthropic as tpus As Gemini app On top of that building data centers in cheap ass locations like india

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There's a Python modules that can work with Robinhood API, can link it to a butt plug so next time our savior Jerome Powell speaks you can take it personally 😉

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